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posted:steungsongkae
on 06/25/2008 17:22:43

How come we can only type Khmer in such a way that cheung dom rout does not sit underneath, but beside it instead? For example, the word konlaeng(place), kor, nor, cheung lor, srak ae, ning ngor=konlaeng. But I would sometimes see aksor lor, sitting right after nor instead...

This is very hard to read, and this can be very bad, if we keep going writing this way. Sometimes, it look like thai's way of writing. Is it b/c  of the software that we can not write it properly...?


posted:Raksa
on 06/25/2008 18:16:18

Ok, let me try writing it... កន្លែង




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posted:Raksa
on 06/25/2008 18:23:28

It looks fine to me...

Here is how I wrote it:

k

n

j

l

Shift+E

g

Try typing in the order as I've shown above & see if you'll get the same result.

Although I did have similar problem before with other words where I had to add a space between words.  For example, check out this thread and look at how I wrote in Khmer.  You'll notice the extra spaces.

http://www.khmerwitica.com/forum/posts/id_2532/




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posted:steungsongkae
on 06/25/2008 19:40:38

Orkun,

But you see what I meant, it is not in a proper way, I could have read, konlor ngae, why is that we can not wirte:

kor, srak ae, nor, cheung lor, ngor in that order? You see the word Khmer is written there- it would have been read as "khorm rae." How can it not be spelled as: srak ae, khor, cheung mor, ror? That is what I want to know.

I used to have this Khmer template which can be written just like that, but I lost it.

Thanks







Raksa wrote:

Ok, let me try writing it... កន្លែង


posted:Raksa
on 06/25/2008 20:07:24

You're welcome!  Ok, based on your last comment, I have a feeling that we are not seeing the same thing...So I need some clarifications...My pc is displaying the word "konlaeng" I wrote in Khmer font properly...I meant cheung "lor" is properly landed underneath the letter "nor", not to the right of "nor"...Sorry, if I misunderstood what you wrote.

By the way, I downloaded my software from Mohasarko's blog.




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posted:impact
on 06/28/2008 22:41:29


steungsongkae wrote:

How come we can only type Khmer in such a way that cheung dom rout does not sit underneath, but beside it instead? For example, the word konlaeng(place), kor, nor, cheung lor, srak ae, ning ngor=konlaeng. But I would sometimes see aksor lor, sitting right after nor instead...

This is very hard to read, and this can be very bad, if we keep going writing this way. Sometimes, it look like thai's way of writing. Is it b/c  of the software that we can not write it properly...?

....Omg,why you asked us here in the US. How can they have an answers for you sir,I thought srok khmer know more didn't they?..


posted:Raksa
on 06/29/2008 10:03:20

steungsongkae,

My apologies...I have misunderstood your point.  You were wondering why the software doesn't allow us to write in the proper order as our handwritten version.

Handwritten version (the proper way) = k(kor)  shift+E(srak ae)  n(nor)  j(for cheung)  l(lor)  g(gnor)...however, if we were to type these out in the same order, we would get something like this instead... កែន្លង

Will you share with us when you come across the software that allows us to write in the same order as if we were to handwrite?  That would be very nice.  That's too bad that you no longer have that software version. 




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posted:steungsongkae
on 06/29/2008 13:12:09

Impact,

I think we have to do it properly, if we want and can; otherwise it is just conterproductive, and defeat the whole purpose of what we are working to gain. It does not matter where we are... I am sorry my friend.




impact wrote:


steungsongkae wrote:

How come we can only type Khmer in such a way that cheung dom rout does not sit underneath, but beside it instead? For example, the word konlaeng(place), kor, nor, cheung lor, srak ae, ning ngor=konlaeng. But I would sometimes see aksor lor, sitting right after nor instead...

This is very hard to read, and this can be very bad, if we keep going writing this way. Sometimes, it look like thai's way of writing. Is it b/c of the software that we can not write it properly...?

....Omg,why you asked us here in the US. How can they have an answers for you sir,I thought srok khmer know more didn't they?..


posted:steungsongkae
on 06/29/2008 13:20:43

Yeah, thank you, that is what I meant.

I will check with my nephew to see if he can share what software he uses at his work place. And I will share, if I can. And please also do reasearch yourself . I don't think Khmer is that hard as the Chinese, and I am sure we can find something out there that is the right way to spell. So the next generation of learners can write and understand in proper form.

Again, thank you.



Raksa wrote:

steungsongkae,

My apologies...I have misunderstood your point. You were wondering why the software doesn't allow us to write in the proper order as our handwritten version.

Handwritten version (the proper way) = k(kor) shift+E(srak ae) n(nor) j(for cheung) l(lor) g(gnor)...however, if we were to type these out in the same order, we would get something like this instead... កែន្លង

Will you share with us when you come across the software that allows us to write in the same order as if we were to handwrite? That would be very nice. That's too bad that you no longer have that software version.


posted:Raksa
on 06/29/2008 17:36:03

Thanks!  If I know of such software, I will definitely let you know.  Thanks for sharing this interesting observation. 




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posted:steungsongkae
on 06/29/2008 22:08:34

Raksa, and all, please try this software: choose limon. It might work.


http://www.everyday.com.kh/khmerfont/khmerfont_kh.asp


posted:Raksa
on 06/30/2008 20:21:38

Thank you so much for the info, steungsongkae.   I downloaded it, but all I got were text files with different fonts.  I don't know what to do next because the site doesn't provide instructions.  Shouldn't there be also an executable file and a keyboard layout or something.  lol...i like this little dude...lol

So I did a little research and found this site which may help shed some more light.

http://www.cambodia.org/fonts/

On the right side of the page, under the Download section, I found all kinds of useful info, especially this one called Documents How to Write listed under the Khmer Unicode for Window XP.  It even talks briefly about the differences between the old Khmer font software vs. Khmer Unicode (new version)......If you continue scrolling down on the right side of the page, you'll see a download section for the early version of Khmer font software.

Well, at first glance, this site seems to be helpful, but I need to spend more times reading through everything and experimenting with it and see which one is easier to learn, the old software or the new software (both seem to have slightly different keyboard layouts).  This should keep me busy for awhile...




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