moni,

The reason I didnt want to get involve with another fundraiser was because Ksaron's name is not trustworthy right now and I don't want anything charity to be smeared with this delusional arrogant monkey.  But I think we misunderstood each other by charity and helping you contacting Mr. Hem Bunting.  I now know that you only want his information.  I will try to help you.

thank you my friend for your comment.  let just say that i have my reason and sometime i choose to share them and sometime not.  However, since you brought up how those leaders in Cambodia chooses to put their name on schools, roads, etc...I hope I am not being viewed as one of them but the interpretation is up to each of our own.

My reason to put KSaron on the wells was because of my arrogant and believing that KSaron's name will stick around with me where as KC might not.  I don't intent to stop at KC but whereever else I can go to contribute and I will l used it as an avenue to generate interests to do charity works.  It is my selfish side of me. It is a reputation that I want to establish for myself whereas KC is vague/broad.  This is the reason.  I don't intent to stop on my journey and as I moving forward you can either KSaron or you can't. 

There is a reason to my madness, as I alway say.  Most of the words and  comments I make, usually has its intention. 

REPOSTED, thanks to Alex's suggestion about reformatting

KSaron,

Thank you for starting this blog.

The well incident in kc was a case of compounding errors.

Not knowing how to read Khmer, by mistake, you posted a pic
that showed the well funded by your mum and named after your mum (Saroeun) and
you ( and son).

Kadin assumed that you used the money raised partly within
kc (KC Idol I) to fund a well and named it after your son and you.

After you explained what happened (and presumably apologized
for your error in posting the wrong pic), was there an apology on the part of
Kadin about the "Saroeun and son" well?

If there was, then the matter is closed.

If there was no apology on Kadin's part, then it's sad
because some people may still get the impression that you are not a trustworthy
person and some posts in KW seem to point to some lingering sequels, although
these may be partly fueled by offline agendas which have nothing to do with the
well incident at all.

On the other hand, I can see what Kadin may have been
thinking.

May I make a comment about the KSaron/KC Well of hope,
please?

IMO, in a way, you are entitled to include your name because
you organized the KC Idol CD compilation and the poker fund raising tournament
in your home although one can argue that you could have called it "KC/Ksaron
Well of hope"

What Kadin and some people probably wanted to see was "KC
full of hope"only.

In Cambodia, donors fall into five broad categories.

(1)  the congenital egotists, e.g. Hun Sen, Bun Rany, Sok An, Chea
Sim and Heng Samrin who name schools, etc after themselves although the money
does not come from their pockets but, sometimes, from people like Sok Kong who
are buying favors but, more often than not, from corruption

(2) The highly successful "philanthropic" Oknhas and some overseas
Khmers, particularly Khmer-Americans who name buildings, etc after themselves
but do fund the projects

(3) Middle-class overseas Khmers and locals who include their
names alongside their relatives' names.

(4) People who make donations in the name of their deceased
parents/spouses//siblings/ loved ones. Almost all foreign benefactors follow
this road.

(5) Very, very few people make anonymous donations

If you recall, I wanted the first contribution to the Sin
Sisamuth fund raiser to be on behalf of Khmer Witica, i.e. I did not want my
screen name to appear.

I wanted to dedicate the "reward" for my contribution to
Khmer Witica to all Khmer Witica members and Khmer Witica's generous admins.
Unfortunately, my request was not accepted.

You wrote

Could anyone see beyond KSaron the poster or is what I put
on KW is exactly who I am and who we are?

I don't know whether your offline personality is as
flamboyant or "big mouth" as your online personality's.

IMO, the flak and the name-calling you have been receiving
from one or two people are undeserved and uncalled for and stem mostly from
offline interactions and these people's resentment of your Offline, not on-line
personality.

Our Wise OKP has said several times that one cannot please
everyone.

Kc and now Khmer Witica would be so boring without
"flamboyant" characters like KSaron.

Hello Sui_generis,

I  am not sure whether your post below is addressed to KSAron or me or both of us.

I have given my reason in

http://www.khmerwitica.com/forum/posts/id_2925/

Okay I understand now but what does that have to do with me asking you to help me find that man's address. I don't want something named after me. I just want to give him a pair of shoes and some spending money. He doesn't need to know my name or anyone else's name. We just want to give...

Hi Alex,

There is something wrong with the pagination.

When I copy and paste from Word, the spacing is at least doubled, if not tripled. Pls help.

It's the same problem in the forums but I was able to edit by changing to single-spacing.

Pls help. Thank you.

KSaron,

Thank you for starting this blog.

The well incident in kc was a case of compounding errors.

Not knowing how to read Khmer, by mistake, you posted a pic
that showed the well funded by your mum and named after your mum (Saroeun) and
you ( and son).

Kadin assumed that you used the money raised partly within
kc (KC Idol I) to fund a well and named it after your son and you.

After you explained what happened (and presumably apologized
for your error in posting the wrong pic), was there an apology on the part of
Kadin about the “Saroeun and son” well?

If there was, then the matter is closed.

If there was no apology on Kadin’s part, then it’s sad
because some people may still get the impression that you are not a trustworthy
person and some posts in KW seem to point to some lingering sequels, although
these may be partly fueled by offline agendas which have nothing to do with the
well incident at all.

On the other hand, I can see what Kadin may have been
thinking.

May I make a comment about the KSaron/KC Well of hope,
please?

IMO, in a way, you are entitled to include your name because
you organized the KC Idol CD compilation and the poker fund raising tournament
in your home although one can argue that you could have called it “KC/Ksaron
Well of hope”

What Kadin and some people probably wanted to see was “KC
full of hope”only.

In Cambodia, donors fall into five broad categories.

(1)  
the congenital egotists, e.g. Hun Sen, Bun Rany, Sok An, Chea
Sim and Heng Samrin who name schools, etc after themselves although the money
does not come from their pockets but, sometimes, from people like Sok Kong who
are buying favors but, more often than not, from corruption.

(2)  
The highly successful “philanthropic” Oknhas and some overseas
Khmers, particularly Khmer-Americans who name buildings, etc after themselves
but do fund the projects

(3)  
Middle-class overseas Khmers and locals who include their
names alongside their relatives’ names.

(4)  
People who make donations in the name of their deceased
parents/spouses//siblings/ loved ones. Almost all foreign benefactors follow
this road.

(5)  
Very, very few people make anonymous donations

If you recall, I wanted the first contribution to the Sin
Sisamuth fund raiser to be on behalf of Khmer Witica, i.e. I did not want my
screen name to appear.

I wanted to dedicate the “reward” for my contribution to
Khmer Witica to all Khmer Witica members and Khmer Witica’s generous admins.
Unfortunately, my request was not accepted.

You wrote

Could anyone see beyond KSaron the poster or is what I put
on KW is exactly who I am and who we are?

I don’t know whether your offline personality is as
flamboyant or “big mouth” as your online personality’s.

IMO, the flak and the name-calling you have been receiving
from one or two people are undeserved and uncalled for and stem mostly from
offline interactions and these people’s resentment of your Offline, not on-line
personality.

Our Wise OKP has said several times that one cannot please
everyone.

Thank you reksmay for your comments and your perspective on the leadership.  I hope that people would read your words and have a better clarification on what it mean because you have a better way of putting it.

It is never easy to stand up and get cheered on and then booed off the stage.  As I have told people on KC and here that thick skin is a must and sometime a little arrogant to complete anything.  There are ALWAYS CRITICS to everything we do and so if I can't stand the heat I shouldn't be cooking in the kitchen. 

I have been a moron, a dumb ass, a (whats the word that soap used)....delusional magalo maniac monkey... for what?  Could anyone see beyond KSaron the poster or is what I put on KW is exactly who I am and who we are?

You brought up a good point, KS. To avoid confusion, for me personally I simply strive to do things on my own if it is grand in scale. Otherwise, I donate a few bucks here and there to keep my sentiment appeased. You know for certain that the big thing you helped created is yours completely as opposed to donations by fund raisers, etc. But, that does not say that this is bad. No. It just means, people should be more intelligent where merit building is concerned. For example, you earn great merit by being a leader, by being the one shouldering the responsibility of fund raising money and such. You assited others for the purpose of building goodness, eg. water wells. If you were not true to this intention, no water wells were created. However, since water wells were made, the fact that one of them has "KSaron/KC of Hope" is proper because the well would look rediculous to have all names written on them. The inheritance of merit is not whether one has a name on something or rather, but that if one has contributed in any means. If one did not contribute and fund, even if one's names written completely on the well, the merit does not go to that person, but to the person whose money helped materialized it. Therefore, it is very important to keep a firm mind for any adverse thinking which might undermine the virtuous actions in the first place. This is one of the reasons why many people cannot get good karma because they do without proper thinking and due to certain circumstances, regret their actions. One should never regret charity made.

Let me explain further in regards to right of name. Since you, KS, is the leader in this, you provided most effort. You had contacts and transferred funds directly. Through your contact, you confirmed that the wells were made. Those who contribute funds should have a right mind to not expect their names on the wells, but rather be satisfied that the wells were built. Do not expect 100% given, %100 returned. This is not the case. %100 given is shared equally between the donor and the leader (50/50 or so).

Think about it. If the leader did not advertise about the possibility of merit building, would anybody care or know enough of the virtuous activities to have any motivations to effect good change? No. So, this gratitude of merits goes to the leader, the gratitude of leading one from darkness of no activity/no charity. What being a donor does is that one is collecting infinitetessimal of merits (dust by dust), cultivating that good nature of benevolence, so that one may be more ready to be on one's engine in future times (leader). Similarly, a leader who relies mostly on donors may not get most of the merits, either. It is dependent on how much one puts at stake---"Majas buon or neak jol kosal". So, for those who are "neak jol kosal", you are just cultivating that good energy to be the "majas buon" some day.

A leader is better than a follower because a leader brings ideas so that followers may get motivated. However, one must be at one's right mind to trust a leader or not. A righteous leader will fulfill his promises and since promises are made concrete, he is at peace in mind. No one could accuse him otherwise. A leader will eventually find enlightenment as a Buddha since he leads people in the virtuous ways of merit building.

So, KS, you should be at peace with yourself. You provided evidences. Only gods are your witnesses. Let those say whatever be for they must know what they are getting into before hand. Both parties must be at peace with mind for good merits to be cultivated. We Khmer should know what it means to commit charity. Understand that charity is like the rules and laws seen in society, eg common sense. Khmer have suffered a great deal over the years because we lack proper understandings, disputing over things like this, for example. When we understand how things work, we begin to love each other and we do not place ill judgements on one another. Therefore, only peace will thrive.

Again, please forgive me for preaching. I just had to get that out of my system. I remember you commented one time how you don't exactly understand how you get karmic credit for being a leader in regards to the SS funds. So, I hope I may shed some lights here.

i dont think it's a good idea for foreigners to put their names on the
things they donate...just look at the wat in srok khmer...names all
over...or the bridge or the wells or the shools or house or etc

because you dont want any misunderstanding